shmurfer

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First off, this update really shone a light on the differences between the green and (various) red paths. Reading others experiences, it became clear that quite a lot of dialogue and even whole events were completely absent if you were diverting from the green path.
Examples:
  • If you're on the good uncle path, Ami is apparently a lot less straightforward to Niki on Akira's behaviour. She does openly say that she wants to fuck her Dad, but she didn't (in this timeline) so from Niki's perspective it's still just threats from a rambling and hormonal, albeit weird, kid. There's no great revelation that Akira is fucking half the class or his niece/daughter. Which begs the question, how will that really impact the story going forward, given that in one instance Niki is apparently made aware and in the other still blissfully unaware? Unless I misread the other point of view presented by other user's posts.
  • If you are not on the correct path with Tsukasa, you just straight up miss out on her second event apparently. And the same goes for Tsubasa's, unless there was a different trigger for that one.
  • If you are not on Kirin's blackmail path, Kirin never apologizes to Ayane at the end of her event chain, in fact, she storms past her and explicitly tells her she is the second to last person she wants to see right now.
  • If you are like me and you don't specifically enjoy the sex acts with Futaba since they feel like taking advantage of a severely insecure teen (not like it's not the case with others, but with Futaba I actually do feel bad), you will likely miss out on her second event, which in turn, will also lock you out of the Molly event, even if you fulfill her lust requirement. Which is an odd programming choice, but I assume that Molly's event must somehow pick up from Futaba's event, so that it could not work alone by itself without the previous one happening?
There might be more, other than obvious dialogue variations, feel free to let me know if you noticed anything else.
And yes, I know, I could just use URM to change the values and get the events anyway. But first of all, it's about the principal, I'm evaluating the natural user experience when playing the game blind and how much content can be missed by seemingly arbitrary player decisions. And while I don't say this is bad per se, I feel like it should still be highlighted that the game might feel incomplete if you don't follow something like the guide mod or alter values in URM.
Which brings me to my second point, altering the values to see certain events still won't necessarily give you context. Sure, you will see the situation unfolding as if the requirements were met, but you effectively did not experience the exact events that led to said outcome. This may not always be relevant, especially for lewd scenes I assume, but it's still a reason for me to disregard URM for now. Instead this just gives me more motivation to finish my replay quickly and get a green path up to date so that I can use it for a second run of new updates to complete all events.
I will recite from memory as many differences as I can remember.

Also can someone post the history of the Ami + Niki scene on Bad Uncle run? I want to know what I missed.
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This immediately goes into Tsukasa related events, which affects the imani sex coming up.

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But like you suggested, this is not done thoroughly. Not only does the dormgen event stay the same as always, you can also call her at night now (forgot if you could or couldn’t in 0.45). And of course, it comes with a nightgen event that only makes sense if we are conversing with Maya Prime.
I can confirm this is kind of 0.46 exclusive.
In 0.45 regardless of Mayablock (because it didn't work properly in the first place) calling Maya would just have the textbox say "Nope" and go back to the phone. That said I did look this event up, it's been in the game since before 0.46 but I haven't had a chance to see whether you could see this normally in chapter 3 since I haven't completed my full playthrough yet. It feels like it should show up if the world kinda breaks in chapter 3 and you're stuck with Prime while the rest of the world is frozen or some shit. I first saw it trying to see how the game reacts during chapter 4 if I started peeling away variables like senseiissad and new_phone_ui.

I didn't see much discussion about it but people should check out the sandbox events. A few of them have been edited to show Akira angry about Maya being gone (Calling Io in the morning has you go to the convenience store, Io offers to buy some for you but buys herself 4 steamed pork buns. Akira remembers another girl who ate like that and then the screen goes black, the music stops and the event ends, Calling Chinami in the morning has you watch movies at her place but Akira all of a sudden GETS ANGSTY AND ASKS IF YOU HAD CHINAMI SIT IN YOUR LAP TO FEEL THAT BULDGE YOU PERVERT, IS THIS WHAT SHE FELT?)

If I wasn't trying to replay the whole game I might have tried to properly document some of this.
 

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I will recite from memory as many differences as I can remember.


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I can confirm this is kind of 0.46 exclusive.
In 0.45 regardless of Mayablock (because it didn't work properly in the first place) calling Maya would just have the textbox say "Nope" and go back to the phone. That said I did look this event up, it's been in the game since before 0.46 but I haven't had a chance to see whether you could see this normally in chapter 3 since I haven't completed my full playthrough yet. It feels like it should show up if the world kinda breaks in chapter 3 and you're stuck with Prime while the rest of the world is frozen or some shit. I first saw it trying to see how the game reacts during chapter 4 if I started peeling away variables like senseiissad and new_phone_ui.

I didn't see much discussion about it but people should check out the sandbox events. A few of them have been edited to show Akira angry about Maya being gone (Calling Io in the morning has you go to the convenience store, Io offers to buy some for you but buys herself 4 steamed pork buns. Akira remembers another girl who ate like that and then the screen goes black, the music stops and the event ends, Calling Chinami in the morning has you watch movies at her place but Akira all of a sudden GETS ANGSTY AND ASKS IF YOU HAD CHINAMI SIT IN YOUR LAP TO FEEL THAT BULDGE YOU PERVERT, IS THIS WHAT SHE FELT?)

If I wasn't trying to replay the whole game I might have tried to properly document some of this.
Hmm, interesting that the Ami Niki event ends like that, obviously for me it cut to black but I'd expect Niki to meltdown or smth.
 
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givemeabeer

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So, I just finish the last update, and... I have a lot of question about everything.
But there's one thing I didn't see here, or I miss it, and that's that :

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Technically Rika would have heard Akira having sex with Imani on the sex animation of the dive bar, but since the scene states that Rika is not watching them (because Wakana forbid her), then I left it out.

Tsubasa has been moved to sexual encounter because even though she doesn't touch Akira, yeah, that's a sexual encounter between the two of them.

As always, the checklist counts sexual things between Akira and the characters only.
 

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We've had some updates to the sexual checklist:
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Technically Rika would have heard Akira having sex with Imani on the sex animation of the dive bar, but since the scene states that Rika is not watching them (because Wakana forbid her), then I left it out.

Tsubasa has been moved to sexual encounter because even though she doesn't touch Akira, yeah, that's a sexual encounter between the two of them.

As always, the checklist counts sexual things between Akira and the characters only.
Bro forgot the foursome on the beach with Wakana and Osako while Akira ate out Imani next to them.
 

Bingoogus

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Technically Rika would have heard Akira having sex with Imani on the sex animation of the dive bar, but since the scene states that Rika is not watching them (because Wakana forbid her), then I left it out.

Tsubasa has been moved to sexual encounter because even though she doesn't touch Akira, yeah, that's a sexual encounter between the two of them.

As always, the checklist counts sexual things between Akira and the characters only.
What sex did Tsuneyo watch? :WaitWhat: only thing i can think of is the Molly rape but she only came in after and saw some cum on her cosplay... hardly counts?
Bro forgot the foursome on the beach with Wakana and Osako while Akira ate out Imani next to them.
That's literally 'watched sexual encounter' dude...
 

Moonflare

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Bro forgot the foursome on the beach with Wakana and Osako while Akira ate out Imani next to them.
I have not. Imani was receiving oral by Akira while Wakana was receiving oral by Osako.

For the purposes of the list "sex" is penetration sex. All other sexual interactions are sexual encounters.

Thus, they are accounted in the list by both Osako and Wakana being in the "watched sexual encounter" category, as they themselves have not interacted with Akira either physically, nor in a sufficient manner to justify it being a sexual encounter with him.

At the end of the day, it's my list. People may agree or disagree with my definitions, but that's the explanation.

Edit: Regarding Bingoogus, Tsuneyo watched Akira and Molly during Sekai's rape dream. I kept it in there because it's been confirmed that she retained that memory in this update. But this is one I'm comfortable in downgrading if enough people think so, since I'm on the fence about it myself.
 

Bingoogus

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Edit: Regarding Bingoogus, Tsuneyo watched Akira and Molly during Sekai's rape dream. I kept it in there because it's been confirmed that she retained that memory in this update. But this is one I'm comfortable in downgrading if enough people think so, since I'm on the fence about it myself.
Yeah... i dunno, it's quite an edge case... like, was it even real? But she did see what she saw even if it was god fuckery, so it kinda counts... but yeah... i'm not going to take a stance, as you said, it's your list, i'll leave it up to you and what take you have of it.
 
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