Even if Tiffany was a party girl in her youth — and I don’t deny that — she’s not *just* another MILF in this story. She’s the MC’s mother. That changes everything in terms of how her storyline works emotionally.
The whole appeal of her route isn’t just erotic; it’s deeply tied to taboo, restraint, and slow-burning inevitability. If her past timeline plays out like every other character’s — just another casual hookup — it breaks the emotional tension that makes her special *in the present*.
So yeah, her story needs a different kind of build-up. Not because she’s “pure,” but because what she represents is unique. If the game doesn’t treat that differently, it risks flattening one of its most powerful dynamics.
Also, keep in mind that during this part of the timeline, young Tiffany already has a boyfriend — even if there's a theory that it’s actually the MC himself, the characters don’t know that in-universe.
So from Tiffany’s perspective, the MC is just a stranger (or someone who reminds her of her boyfriend). Any actual sex scene at this point would essentially be cheating — even if the player knows it’s “really” the same person, Tiffany doesn't. That makes it emotionally inconsistent and character-breaking.
Plus, even beyond in-story logic, many players (myself included) naturally project certain emotional expectations onto a character like "mom" — especially in taboo-driven stories. We *expect* her to be complex, restrained, emotionally loaded — not someone who casually jumps into bed with someone else while in a relationship. That tension — her restraint, her internal struggle — is a big part of what makes her emotionally powerful.
So just to be clear — I’m not against the idea of the MC eventually having an intimate scene with young Tiffany. That could be incredibly powerful, *if* it happens at the right moment, with the right emotional weight behind it.
What I’m saying is that her story arc needs a different kind of pacing — slower, more psychologically layered, more tied to the taboo and the build-up. If you rush it, the whole dynamic collapses into something much more shallow, and honestly, forgettable.
It’s not about moral purity. It’s about protecting the emotional architecture that makes her unique in the first place.
Which this isn't. Yes, there's some flirting happening with mom and sis but I wouldn't consider that the primary driver of this story. Certainly not on the level of an avn focused on incest and family relationships. Sure, Jestur could pull a twist that the MC is the father of a lot of the present day love interests but I'd honestly be surprised if that happens because it'd nuke a large portion of their income seeing as most of that comes from Patreon and we all know how that goes these days.
I'd honestly be surprised if we hook up with either the mom or sister in any of the time periods at this point. It was probably something planned at the start when making this but since then things have changed with the crackdowns on incest in avns.
I could be completely wrong obviously. And would love it if I am, Tiffany and Jessica are both great.
I get why people want to see the MC hook up with young Tiffany — the taboo, the symmetry, the erotic setup, all of that.
But personally, I think it risks breaking something far more important than timeline rules. It breaks the emotional illusion that makes Tiffany so compelling in the first place.
She’s not just hot. She’s not just older. She’s the kind of woman the MC — and the readers — project something sacred onto: experience, restraint, emotional depth, even a kind of moral elegance. She’s the woman you weren’t supposed to have, but somehow did. That’s what makes it hit so hard.
But if the MC has sex with her younger self — someone who, at the time, doesn’t know him, doesn’t love him, and just goes with it — it rewrites that entire emotional architecture.
Suddenly, Tiffany’s not the emotionally rare, slow-burning, maternal ideal. She’s just another girl who would’ve said yes to any bold, confident guy.
Even if that guy is the MC himself, it still shatters the illusion. Because for us — the readers — what we imagined was a good woman, a special woman, one who reserved her body and emotions for someone who truly broke through her barriers.
If she gave it away casually in the past, then the magic of “she gave it to you in the present” disappears. The story stops being about fate, and starts being about access.
Which this isn't. Sure, there's some flirting happening with mom and sis but I wouldn't consider that the primary driver of this story. Certainly not on the level of an avn focused on incest and family relationships. Sure, Jestur could pull a twist that the MC is the father of a lot of the present day love interests but I'd honestly be surprised if that happens because it'd nuke a large portion of their income seeing as most of that comes from Patreon and we all know how that goes these days.
Fair point — you're right that this isn’t an AVN fully centered around incest, and I didn’t mean to mislabel the entire story that way.
My point was more about how certain characters (like Tiffany) carry that emotional weight *as if* they were part of a slow-burn, taboo-focused dynamic — whether or not the story is officially built around that. And for players who resonate with that kind of tension, rushing her arc might feel like something's been lost.
Of course, there are all kinds of characters and tones mixed into this game — that's one of its strengths. I’m not trying to generalize or speak for everyone. Just offering a perspective from someone who tends to gravitate toward those slower, emotionally-charged storylines.
Thanks for pointing that out.
And just to add — I genuinely enjoy this game. I'm not a native English speaker, so I sometimes rely on translation tools to help express myself here. If anything I wrote came across the wrong way, that wasn’t my intention at all. I just really love the character writing and wanted to share some thoughts from a slightly different cultural angle.
Also, keep in mind that during this part of the timeline, young Tiffany already has a boyfriend — even if there's a theory that it’s actually the MC himself, the characters don’t know that in-universe.
So from Tiffany’s perspective, the MC is just a stranger (or someone who reminds her of her boyfriend). Any actual sex scene at this point would essentially be cheating — even if the player knows it’s “really” the same person, Tiffany doesn't. That makes it emotionally inconsistent and character-breaking.
Plus, even beyond in-story logic, many players (myself included) naturally project certain emotional expectations onto a character like "mom" — especially in taboo-driven stories. We *expect* her to be complex, restrained, emotionally loaded — not someone who casually jumps into bed with someone else while in a relationship. That tension — her restraint, her internal struggle — is a big part of what makes her emotionally powerful.
So just to be clear — I’m not against the idea of the MC eventually having an intimate scene with young Tiffany. That could be incredibly powerful, *if* it happens at the right moment, with the right emotional weight behind it.
What I’m saying is that her story arc needs a different kind of pacing — slower, more psychologically layered, more tied to the taboo and the build-up. If you rush it, the whole dynamic collapses into something much more shallow, and honestly, forgettable.
It’s not about moral purity. It’s about protecting the emotional architecture that makes her unique in the first place.
We don't know who the baby daddy is (Eric is a former boyfriend but we don't know if he is the father) and we do know that the news that Tiffany is pregnant seems to be a closely shared secret.
The MC swoops in and saves her and she wants to talk with him at the party, later revealed by Jenny after Lym and Luna get invited while they are at the diner.
He was a stranger before, and he is now the guy who saved Tiffany's baby - it makes sense that she wants to talk with him and get to know him better - the party is the perfect place for this to happen.
We don't know if Tiffany is currently committed to anyone - so, based on current knowledge, any sex is not cheating.
So - young Tiffany has her own secrets and I suspect that we will learn some of them during that conversation/those conversations.
Now - I agree that Tiffany is very special and she is one of my favorite women in Ripples. In the present, she and Scarlett are both top 5 women and my favorite MILFs.
Do I think we will get full on sex with young pregnant Tiffany after getting 'only' a hot make out session with MILF Tiffany?
No - it Would be too soon - hence my reference to Tiffany and Scarlett as my 'Dream' 3some - something currently unattainable.
I would like it if we got a hot make out session with both Scarlett and Tiffany - something shared with both, and that memories of that session will have an impact on the future (with MILF Tiffany and MILF Scarlett).
Scarlett is one of Tiffany's valued confidants and the more 'past' MC memories that creep into the present - with both women recalling them in future revs, the better - IMO.
In a prior rev, we got a reveal by Scarlett where she had polaroids of some sexy time she spent with the MC - sexy time that has not happened yet (to present day MC).
This helped prompt MILF Scarlett to try kissing the MC and things got sexy quickly.
I am hoping for more past 'reinforcement' of how special the MC is with Tiffany and Scarlett.
Will the three of them create echoes in the past that present-day MILF Tiffany (and MILF Scarlett) hear and respond to?
Jenny's words at the first encounter in the garage about generosity being contagious is an unexpected gem of wisdom I rarely found in any type of media. Much delighted.
Also frequently catch myself thinking "dammit MC, thats not how this whole flirting thing works" just to realize "but it would be much nicer if it did", and then I just enjoy MC's unapologetic simping in this wholesome alternate-reality VN lol.
Can't pull the script, but he is just happy-go-lucky dishing out one compliment after the other. Examples that come to mind are Skylar car/outdoor scene, first visit in Segers store with Janelle. All the time really, aside from Darci. Its not true simping as he just speaks his mind without being calculating about it. Not needy as well.
Was in this case meant positively. Enjoy this unapologetic 'be good / get good' behaviour.
