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Has he not delivered on what is actually promised on each tier? What most people here seem to be upset about, is the constant update delays and excuses. If he had something like "you get a new game update every x number of months", then yea he would breaking their rules because he is not delivering on what he promised, but that is not the case. So unless you can 100% prove to patreon that he is lying about the reasons why the delays are happening, they will do nothing about it.While I generally support this girl, Katie, I'm not going to hide the truth. She's clearly not in the best mental state, and she even mentioned getting therapy for some trauma from her youth, but to say she deserves to be put in a mental institution is a bit of a stretch.
BD's behavior over the years is indefensible. Well, there are always those who will jump into the fire for him. Katie's hatred for BD isn't unjustified, especially not her.
You probably don't remember or conveniently forgot, it doesn't matter, but BD literally manipulated her. The girl was here for a few days defending him after she'd already had a problem with him. The girl claimed BD had changed and that everything would get better.
Many of us here told her that she was being used to defend him on the forum, but she didn't see it or didn't want to see it, something that often happens when someone is manipulated who doesn't want to see it. The thing is, sooner rather than later, she realized that BD is very good at manipulating people.
Finally, the game may not have anything that breaks Patreon's rules, but the developer does. Patreon has policies against deceptive use of the platform, especially if a creator is collecting money without fulfilling their promises. In its Trust and Safety section, Patreon mentions that creators must be transparent and deliver the promised rewards or benefits to their backers. This is especially true if the behavior is repeated over time.
That said, I don't think anything will come of it unless it's reported multiple times.
Also, I'm against affecting the income stream of developers and content creators in general. Yes, I think if Patreon cuts off the money... BD will have to work hard to recover its income level on Subscribestar. The thing is: with the way they're acting, it's highly doubtful that will happen. it's safer to say that WVM would be abandoned at that point.
And to be clear the criticism for the delays is 100% valid. After a while with so many excuses, even if you try to be super charitable it's still very hard to believe him.
I only became aware of Katie after she was banned and her husband was here defending her. So I can't really say anything about her being manipulated. But even assuming that is true, I still think some of the stuff she said she wanted to do like dox BD, is super unhinged and is something that should not be supported or cheered on.