Krytax123

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Is all this drama unfolding in the discord or something? lol Seems i'm missing out on juicy stuff.
What drama?

Its the same

"sad the game is abandoned" - "well its not really abandoned, the dev is working its just that nothing happens" on repeat and will probably stay like that until he releases a new episode or officially abandons the avn.
 

c3p0

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...officially abandons the avn...
As that happen in 99% of the time. And I mean a dev making a official post about it, not having no release, post whatever for a long time or dev deleting his account on the usual site.
 

dorleans90

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It's not exactly a mistake, it's a "security measure", we could say.

When a game goes a certain amount of time without updates, it gets this "abandoned" mark, but as soon as it receives new updates, this mark is removed.
Personally, I appreciate f95zone's approach. It may jump the gun a lot, but it's self-correcting. And no other site seems to bother with any sort of systematic process for identifying abandoned games at all.
 

dorleans90

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As long as the dev hasn't died or something (like has happened with a couple of dev's of which games I enjoyed), I will keep on hoping an update will be released in the future.

I'm looking forward to a season 2, I really liked S1.
Yeah, the casualty rates for porn game devs is crazy. It seems like half these guys wind up hospitalized from physical and/or mental breakdowns. But then, I don't understand the psychology behind any of this. I mean, getting called to the priesthood I at least s9rt of get in the abstract, but who decides "Oh, I think I'll create something for no monetary reward in an inherently unacceptable medium whose authorship will make me a social pariah if it's ever discovered,"? This whole site is some sort of lunatic volunteer operation isn't it? What does an f95zone mod get out of it? Why does anyone do it?

Certainly not thanks. For the hell of it, I guess., God bless them.

Of course, no economically viable narrative medium would ever produce something like this. The Deluca Family is literally the single weirdest, most delightfully gonzo take on organized crime syndicates in all of fiction. (The closest thing it reminds me of is, oddly enough, The Tick.)

I mean, this is a Mafia Family that has a Sisters of Battle squad, for some reason, and they're like its least eccentric unit. (My taking-it-all-way-too-seriously question - what diocese are these lunatics supposed to be from, and where the hell is the Vatican?) It's such a strange, singular vision that I'm not even sure what he could be drawing inspiration from. That's what would make is such a shame if it is abandoned. It's just so rare to come across a genuinely original thing.
 
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dorleans90

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if you look up revenue estimates of some of the games that started out on here and later got a steam release you wouldn't be saying that. i am pretty sure i can't mention other devs but one dev went from asking people to playtest his vn on f95 to getting +$4,000,000 in steam sales ALONE in a span of 2/3 years. that said when making a vn turning a profit should be the least of your worries.
Yeah, the key word there is "one". One dude does not an economically viable medium make.

If profit's "least of your worries" when making a VN, why exactly does anyone do it? That's a genuine question by the way, which I've actually been kind of too afraid to ask. Some superstitious part of me worried this whole thing might pop like a soap bubble, and I like that so many people do it for... whatever incomprehensible reason.
 
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Black Orchid

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Yeah, the key word there is "one". One dude does not an economically viable medium make.

If profit's "least of your worries" when making a VN, why exactly does anyone do it? That's a genuine question by the way, which I've actually been kind of too afraid to ask. Some superstitious part of me worried this whole thing might pop like a soap bubble, and I like that so many people do it for... whatever incomprehensible reason.
there is no bubble to speak of. the vn "market" isn't really a thing albeit since the last 2 years the better titles have been getting abandoned at a higher rate while the good quality releases became harder and harder to come by. the reason of one deciding to make a vn is mostly arbitrary and that usually applies to a lot of things that are "art" related. why would anyone want to create a indie platformer for example? those kind of genres are so saturated you'd think a single person working on such thing is just wasting their time but people still do it. i could go on and on about the specific topic of the vn genre but that is really the thread to that. also if you weed out all the garbage titles on here that obviously never had high aspirations, you would be really surprised how much people are making considering how niche the playerbase for said genre is.
 
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dorleans90

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Oh hell no this game has to continue.. So much potential to be a masterpiece. I hope the dev is okay.
Well, if the other people on this thread are correct, he's at least up to posting empty promises. It indicates life, for one thing (unless his assets were so paltry that his widow is now reduced to employing macabre pretense for the sake of any trickle of revenue.) but it's also a little better than that.

It means he has time and energy to waste again, which is great news for us. We're wastes of both!
 

Odin Eye Patch

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oh if that's the case what's the state of the game at ? i mean it seems like a while since we got a update last time i played it was when Luna's past was revealed waited for some time to catch back up with the game
 

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oh if that's the case what's the state of the game at ? i mean it seems like a while since we got a update last time i played it was when Luna's past was revealed waited for some time to catch back up with the game
You'd need to ask jjj. He talks to hopes regularly.
 

FookU2

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oh if that's the case what's the state of the game at ? i mean it seems like a while since we got a update last time i played it was when Luna's past was revealed waited for some time to catch back up with the game
Hell, I stopped playing well before that, I think. It was before the game started getting reworked. I just decided at that point I didn't wanna start over and replay all the scenes I had already seen. So, I just deleted everything and decided I would wait till the game was finished. But, at this rate, I may die of old age before that happens. lol
 
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Yeah, the key word there is "one". One dude does not an economically viable medium make.

If profit's "least of your worries" when making a VN, why exactly does anyone do it? That's a genuine question by the way, which I've actually been kind of too afraid to ask. Some superstitious part of me worried this whole thing might pop like a soap bubble, and I like that so many people do it for... whatever incomprehensible reason.
I might be misremembering but back in the day (my original account was from 2017 I think) like when this one came out000 I don't think getting porn VNs on Steam was even allowed, at least, I don't remember it being really a 'thing' till a couple years later. Sure, there were games that blew up on patreon but the most you could reasonably hope for was something like a full time salary for what would likely be full time work.

I think a lot of people had a genuine desire to make art, in a way. There seemed to be a lot more "soul" in that period of VNs.

When the big money comes, then so do big groups of people trying to make money. In some ways that was great and in a lot of ways it killed the "indie" VN scene. Back then I knew basically every VN that came out, I tried them all, had plenty of projects that I supported on Patreon. Nowadays, couldn't really tell the names of any VNs that are not already at least 5 years old at this point.

The DeLuca Family was created by somebody not solely interested in money, or at least not when he began, and I think it shines through in his story.
 
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