Elduriel

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It seems people don't like Allie bc of her "personality" but they're missing the fact: Jake cheated on her. Anyone in her place would have behaved the same way. Being cheated on is the worst thing that can happen to someone in a marriage. But I'm sure update by update people will keep warming up to her.

My top 3 as of Act I:
  1. Jasmine
  2. Allison
  3. Patricia
neither of them are entirely blameless though for fucking up their marriage. Yes Jake cheated which is bad, but neither of them actively tried to save the marriage, they just sort of let it fizzle out. It takes two to make it work, and none of them made the effort. It could have been just as easily Allie who cheats down the line.
 

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neither of them are entirely blameless though for fucking up their marriage. Yes Jake cheated which is bad, but neither of them actively tried to save the marriage, they just sort of let it fizzle out. It takes two to make it work, and none of them made the effort. It could have been just as easily Allie who cheats down the line.
Yep it was doomed to fail, that is why I don't really believe is a believable reconciliation path but maybe the dev make it believable, who knows. Their core personalities (MC and Allie) simply don't match imho.
 

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You also have to remember, Veronica is intentionally the way she is, because she is written to make a lot of you feel the way you feel.

Any VN dev that starts the story with you in an established romance....has to give the player an 'out'...so really one could say she could have been written far better and yet still give you an out...

Facts remain, unless you're playing the MC exactly as yourself (and think about that, because the MC is a dumb idiot and not terribly likeable), Veronica is still the second best LI in term of a 'long-term' relationship....perhaps the best if you don't want the baggage that Maggie comes with. All the rest are just a disater waiting to happen (again in one case) if this was anywhere close to being realistic.
 
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Yep it was doomed to fail, that is why I don't really believe is a believable reconciliation path but maybe the dev make it believable, who knows. Their core personalities (MC and Allie) simply don't match imho.
eh I'll give it a shot in the game as I generally like how Allie is written (barring the initial hostility)... and of course she is hot... irl probably wouldn't try it :ROFLMAO:
 
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If you think your woman treats you badly, break up and move on. Simple as that. Cheating makes the situation worse for everyone included, even for the cheater, just for short term satisfaction.
That simple, huh ?? What if it's the woman who cheats on her man and refuses to take accountability for it bcz he never finds out or he does, but does have any proof ?? You'd still give her the same piece of advice if she left her family, kids included, for some dicks on the side ??:p

The biggest downgrade in the AVN history, if you ask me. :KEK:
I don't, nor do I care.:p You do you. Won't judge you for picking her strictly based on her physical attraction. You take the nagging, bitchy ex, I'll take the busty latina any day of the year.

It seems people don't like Allie bc of her "personality" but they're missing the fact: Jake cheated on her. Anyone in her place would have behaved the same way.
Thing is, I don't blame Allison for being angry at the MC for cheating on her... nah, I wouldn't blame her even if she felt the need to cut his dick off after what he did. BUT holy fictional shit, holding on to a grudge toward her ex for 3 or 5y instead of focusing on herself, her career AND her daughter and moving on with another man says a lot about a person like her. One of the biggest red flags ever in a person, IMO, but let's go back to shitting on V's character for not doing even half the shit Allison did like the fine, reasonable ppl we are.:giggle::coffee:

And another thing, all this reuniting the broken family Hollywood cliché some players seem to have a hard on for makes no sense storywise, cuz the two of them still hate each other, MC's a known cheater, Allison's still not over their divorce and brings absolutely nothing special to the table that other at least 100 younger, more attractive women like Jazzy, Nat and Maggie do.

Sure, they're all still very young and inexperienced, not exactly solid step-mom material for Lily, if we keep it a buck, but they (Maggie and Jasmine at least) love the MC and are willing to support him as best as they can in his journey, so who knows ?? Maybe they'll prove themselves to be up to the task in the next updates, and they can always have children of their own with the MC.

Meanwhile my dumbass went all in on Natalya first time I played. :ROFLMAO:
Think I got lost between her legs myself on a few occasions too. No judging from me, man. Blondes are my kryptonite too.
 
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I don't, nor do I care.:p You do you. Won't judge you for picking her strictly based on her physical attraction. You take the nagging, bitchy ex, I'll take the busty latina any day of the year.

Thing is, I don't blame Allison for being angry at the MC for cheating on her... nah, I wouldn't blame her even if she felt the need to cut his dick off after what he did. BUT holy fictional shit, holding on to a grudge toward her ex for 3 or 5y instead of focusing on herself, her career AND her daughter and moving on with another man says a lot about a person like her. One of the biggest red flags ever in a person, IMO, but let's go back to shitting on V's character for not doing even half the shit Allison did like the fine, reasonable ppl we are.:giggle::coffee:
If I was Jake, I'd never cheat on Allie. I'd go to a family therapist and try to solve the issues to the end. If it works, it works. If not, I'd leave her with peace. But as I said I'd never ever cheat on Allie.

I'm not choosing Allie over V because of her appearance. I mean, yeah she's indeed a smokeshow. But also a lovely mother, a smart woman, and most importantly a good lover. Yes, a good lover! Because after all this shit she still loves Jake. There's no doubt about it. I agree with y'all about her bitchy attitude towards to Jake is kinda unnecessary and she should stop overreacting all the time. I never said Allie is Mrs. Perfect.

On the other hand, there is V... I don't think she is a bad person. Actually, she really cares about Jake. Well... at least most of the time. But I'd never ever choose V over any woman in this world. I do like busty latinas, and def have a thing for MILFs. But you know... I honestly think everything about V is wrong in the story so far. Her selfishness is the biggest NO for me.

Imagine this... Your daughter is in coma. You're in shock. You dunno what to do. You don't have enough money for her treatment. etc. etc.

But your gf keep saying:

"WhEn aRe wE GoNNa MaRRy?"

"Do YoU LoVe Me?"

"DeFiNe OuR ReLatIoNShiP"

blablabla...

At some point, I was like: "Ehhh... SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP. WOMAN!"
 

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At some point, I was like: "Ehhh... SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP. WOMAN!"
:p I was almost the same whenever Allie brought the cheating and blaming on the MC in the first 2 episodes hehehe, I only kept thinking "dang woman, chill, leave the nagging for off screen moments, I didn't do anything :LOL:" . This is always the issue when we have no say to the circumstances at where we begin the game aka day 0 specially with an heavy past and present some don't wish for like being already in a relationship at the start of a AVN.

For sure most of us would do things different from Jake, heck for sure we all behave different in similar circumstances from each other (players). The same happens with MC-Veronica. We don't really have a fresh start and if we want it we have to wait for the choices to happen hehe.

But if all this creates so many discussion in this thread then the dev is doing their job well, at least it isn't boring and there is plenty of different love interests and relationship types for almost every taste.
 

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seeing all these "lists" and Camilla not getting a mention kills me.

Cooper wouldn't mind sharing ;)

Atleast a Side Story with her and MC needs to have the light of day because Camilla is GREAT.
 
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seeing all these "lists" and Camilla not getting a mention kills me.
Camilla is a sidecharacter and only got a bit more insight in the latest update.
She is sort of untouchable since she is attached to Cooper. Best chance is to get a funny threesome or foursome and it isn't so much about how much you want her, but how much you can put of with Cooper.

I suggested her, but I was mocked for it, so don't blame me.
 

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and this is the reason I rarely like to talk about V vs Allie anymore in this thread at least when he shows up. I will usually state my opinion at times and rarely get involved beyond 1-3 replies. Instead of having a mild disagreement or discussion he always turns it into something more than it needs to be ( a Allie Vs V war) because of his hatred for Allie
Seriously? This argument again? Has it been a month already?

Just so I don't feel left out.

The blame for the marriage breakdown is 50/50 (you could make an argument for 60/40 either way, but they share the blame).

The blame for the cheating is 100% MC. I get it and understand why he did, and many others would have done the same thing. But you cannot put even 1% on Allie. MC had options and still chose to put his dick in someone else. (If it had been Allie that cheated, or it comes out that she did, then the blame is on her 100% for her cheating).
 
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The MC held a lower position than his wife in the same company. So your argument holds no weight.
She was the one doing the domestics according to my playthrough. I haven't played all the routes however, so I don't know the timeline. Can you point me to where this is discussed?
 

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She was the one doing the domestics according to my playthrough. I haven't played all the routes however, so I don't know the timeline. Can you point me to where this is discussed?
Allison is VP of new product development at Praxium Pharmaceuticals in their Biosimilar department while MC was a respected member of the research section. There's a time difference there, as Allie's role is current whereas MC's was while he was an employee there, so Allie could have been promoted since he left, but she comes across as being higher up than he was in the company (details given if you take Allie to the charity ball).
 

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Seriously? This argument again? Has it been a month already?
The blame for the cheating is 100% MC.
Oh for fuck's sake... here we go again.:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::FacePalm:

MC had options and still chose to put his dick in someone else.
No, he didn't have any options then... he does in the present. That cunt only flirted with Jake a few times and they skipped to the fun part. Why would he be stupid enough to fuck Allison's damn co-worker, of all women, if he had so 'many' options like you claim and not simply hook up with some random ho at the club, bar, or fuck knows where else without risking his wife finding out about it and divorcing him like she did ??:WaitWhat::WaitWhat:

you cannot put even 1% on Allie. MC had options and still chose to put his dick in someone else. (If it had been Allie that cheated, or it comes out that she did, then the blame is on her 100%).
Ok, let's do this... let's set our lil feelings aside for a few mins and use cold logic, actual logic, when making statements like this and trying to prove our point.

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My point is this... stop using the cheating part of their divorce as a cheap excuse to blame everything on the MC, bcz nobody cheated on you Allison fans, ffs. This kinda shit is bound to happen every time one of the two persons in a long-term relationship/marriage is attractive, already has or knows they could have options and is unhappy, dissatisfied with their relationship, neglected and misunderstood by their SO. I know it sounds harsh, BUT it's still a real-life fact.

Don't want your partner cheating on you, don't give them reasons to do it. Period. They're your significant other, not your property. Claiming someone shouldn't leave a relationship due to the reasons mentioned above goes into borderline creepy, obsessive, possessive behavior, well, the kinda love that's not healthy for anyone ( ), and simply walking away like a 'mature' adult is supposed to do complicates things a thousandfold when there are personal assets, feelings and children involved. Rant finally over lol.:giggle:(y):coffee:
 
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